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Passap Sock Toe Woe Solution For Too Many Dropped Stitches

I’ve been working on a new pair of Machine Knit Hand Knit socks for Bill. In the past, I’ve made many pairs on a Japanese flat bed machine with ribber, never a Passap. This was my first Duo 80 sock.

All went well until the decreases for the toe refused to knit off both stitches. I didn’t even know I had a problem until I finished and removed the sock from the machine. One of the stitches in a paired decrease would knit cleanly, it’s mate on the same needle would drop. While knitting, all appeared fine when it wasn’t.

On a Japanese machine, if stitches are being stubborn and won’t knit the way you want, you can bring the offending needles out to hold, forcing the stitches behind the latch to insure it will knit cleanly on the next row. I tried bringing the needle forward on the Passap with the two stitches but I then dropped both. I don’t know if the problem was me or wrongly applying a Japanese trick to a Swiss machine.

The picture below shows how I inadvertently dropped decreases on both sides of center. The flip side had several drops as well. They occurred mainly as I approached the end of the toe and was decreasing every round. However, I also had a dropped stitch on the very first round of toe decreases.

Passap sock toe dropped decrease stitches

In doing some research, the Passap can’t bring needles out to hold like Japanese machines. The only equivalent in the Passap world is to use a second set of the four edge springs. Place the extra springs on each set of stitches to be decreased, moving the springs with each round as the stitches to be decrease move in towards the toe. This will help the stitches to knit correctly and not drop. I’ll have to dig out my Pinkie Duomatic edge springs and see if this works.

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3 comments

1 Thomas { 04.24.08 at 10:45 am }

You mention you have created socks on the Japanese flat bed machines with ribber. Do you by chance have a documented pattern for this process? I’d like to find a good solid pattern that creates a nice sock. Thanks!

2 Kathryn { 04.24.08 at 5:18 pm }

The pattern is about halfway written and still needs all the photos. Keep in mind, it is not a beginner pattern. If you have never machine knit a sock, you might want to practice making the traditional short row heel sock. It will allow you to get comfortable with correct sizing for your foot and finishing the toe.

Getting the MKHK Sock Pattern done is at the top of my to do list once everything from the old site makes the transition to Wordpress and I am up to date with my blogging life. I’m targeting this summer.

3 Andrea Lakeland { 08.28.08 at 8:05 pm }

I’m so glad to come back here and see you’re still working on the sock pattern for the MKHK sock. I’m eagery waiting. Not being a hand knitter I’ve been finding it a bit tricky to work it out myself :-)

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